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On page 86 of the book "Under the Bed of Heaven" which is part of Chapter 4 "New Visions For Sex in Heaven" on page 86 it says "Sex in Heaven: The Possibilities" and it mentions Protestant Theologian David Jensen, author of the book "God, Desire, and a Theology of Human Sexuality" It says on page 86 "Jensen does not preclude the possibility of sex, gender, and intimate relationships(or something like these) manifesting between heavenly resurrected bodies. His reasons for holding this position are many. First, and with respect to scripture, Jensen notes that while Christ makes the claim that marriage will not endure in heaven(at all, or as it has existed on earth), Jesus does not outright deny the possibility of sex in heaven. The assertion that the end of marriage entails the end of sex is an assumption of the interpreter. For many Christians that assertion might be made because they stand (knowingly or not) on the shoulders of Augustine and his views on sex, and not necessarily on the basis of what the biblical texts themselves suggest. Second, Jensen acknowledges that sexuality and eroticism have been drawn upon by Christians to describe eternal union with God- and thus eroticism in heaven is not wholly contrary to Christian faith. For example, the Book of Revelation describes the relationship of Christ and the redeemed as a marriage consummated in heaven. What is more, other theologians have interpreted the Sexual escapades in the Song of Solomon (from the Hebrew Bible) to be spiritual metaphors for union with God. Furthermore, Christian mystics have also drawn upon eroticism to describe the God-human relationship. Jensen quotes the medieval mystic Mechthild of Magdeburg, which bears repeating here: " and is given on page 87 Plus on page 105 of this same Chapter Patricia Beattie Jung is mentioned and it says "But if resurrected human beings are able to have sex, what kind will it be ? Jung says "Whether all this means people will engage in coitus, fellatio, cunnilingus, genital rubbing, or the like, I care not to speculate" What is more important to Jung is that any vision of eschatological sex should be about the quality and character of the intimacy we share with others. She writes "our experience of erotic desires- which might well include but not be exhausted by sexual desires - are and might well be even more transformed by God's grace. God desires that we be increasingly inclined toward intimacy and drawn into one another's arms in ways that are genuinely humanizing." Chapter 5 of this book is titled "Sexual Metaphors for the Eschatological Life" and on the bottom of page 117 it says "Sexual Metaphors For Heaven"
Again the Tom Gruber blog about Sex & Lovemaking in Heaven can be found here http://istheresexinheaven.blogspot.com/?m=0 I gave many comments and Arguments in Support of Sex in Heaven
Another book by Tom Gruber published in 2016 is titled "Christopian Sex: A Treatise on Reclaiming Paradise via Christian Sexual Ethics" 620 pages print , the amazon.com description for this book says "This new ground-breaking book by Tom Gruber grapples with the really tough ethical questions regarding sex, such as: What’s right? What’s wrong? And why? Most importantly, what’s idyllic? But isn’t this Sexual Ethics 101? Doesn’t everybody already know what the Bible teaches about sex? Doesn’t everybody already know that sex belongs exclusively within marriage between one husband and one wife? Doesn’t everybody already know that fornication is the Biblical equivalent of premarital sex? Doesn’t everybody already know that adultery is the Biblical equivalent of extramarital sex? Doesn’t everybody already know that lust is the Biblical equivalent of thinking about either adultery or fornication? If you believe any of these things, though author Tom Gruber respectfully disagrees, he can relate. He used to feel the exact same way. But then, after a series of cataclysmic events, he was forced to question everything he believed about sex. After 25 long years of investigative research, he came to some radically different conclusions. Oh, he still believes the Bible is the reliable Word of God. He still believes fornication is wrong, he still believes adultery is wrong, and he still believes lust is wrong. But he has also come to conclude that adultery is NOT synonymous with extramarital sex, fornication is NOT synonymous with premarital sex, and lust is NOT synonymous with thinking about adultery or fornication. Furthermore, he believes that many of the sexual restrictions God placed on mankind were as a result of The Fall. Here are a few key questions this book addresses: •Since Jesus said love for God and love for neighbor are a summary of The Ten Commandments, if a sexual act is both loving and in the overall best interests of everyone concerned, how can it simultaneously be sinful? •Jesus said, “Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her in his heart has committed adultery with her already.” But what does that mean?"
The amazon.com description of this Christopian Sex book continues: "What did Jesus mean by, “In the resurrection, they neither marry nor are given in marriage”? •If the Bible only approves of monogamy, why were so many godly men in the Bible polygamous without a peep of Divine disapproval? •Does the Bible condone homosexuality? •What went wrong in the Garden of Eden? •Did marriage come before or after The Fall? •Is there sex in the afterlife? Gruber grapples with these questions, and many more. He makes a compelling case for what he coins as “Christopian Sex,” a non-conventional lifestyle similar to polyamory. Polyamory means “many loves.” Of course, everyone agrees that Christians should have many loves. But to love more than one person romantically or sexually is somehow breaking all the rules. Gruber defines Christopian Sex as “the practice, desire, or acceptance by Christian adults of simultaneously having more than one responsible intimate heterosexual relationship [usually including sexual intercourse, though not necessarily] with the knowledge and consent of every Christian adult involved.” The key word here is “responsible.” Yes, Gruber believes there really is such a thing as “responsible non-monogamy.” He believes something cannot be responsible and sinful simultaneously. Put another way, he believes something cannot be irresponsible without being sinful. Bottom line, Gruber believes that God does not make up willy-nilly rules without having good reasons for those rules. CHRISTOPIAN SEX: A Treatise on Reclaiming Paradise via Christian Sexual Ethics by Tom Gruber, though biblically sound, is very controversial. However, it is not controversial simply for the sake of being controversial. Gruber believes truth is important, controversial or not. He believes that marital monogamy and single celibacy are NOT all there is. In fact, he also believes neither are idyllic. Gruber calls believers everywhere to reclaim paradise via Christian Sexual Ethics and usher in CHRISTOPIA!" This book Christopian Sex also defends the belief of Sex & Lovemaking Existing in Heaven and the New Earth !!!
I just found another Biblical Christian YouTube video about the possibility of Sexual Relations & Lovemaking in Heaven The Video is titled "Will There Be Sex in Heaven" by Credo House on February 4, 2023 , this video has an Open Mind about Christians enjoying Sex in Heaven & The New Earth Sadly many Christian Biblical YouTube videos about the Topic of Whether There Will be Sexual Intercourse in Heaven repeat the same old weak False arguments against Sex in Heaven .
Earlier today I found articles online about a Catholic School , Christian teacher named Courtney Tillia , age 35 The New York Post nypost.com has an article about her headlined "I’m a proud Christian porn star — God put me on earth to enjoy sexual pleasure" By Andrew Court April 24, 2023 Andrew Court in this article said Courtney Tillia is a "sinful stunner" who made an "unholy confession" but that's just his opinion 2. torontosun.com has an article about this same Christian teacher headlined "Christian teacher claims God 'told her' to become a porn star" by Brad Hunter on April 24, 2023 & 3. dailystar.co.uk has an article about her headlined "Christian porn star quit teaching job for sex work as 'God told her to' " by Kristy Card on 23, April 2023 Of course we Christians shouldn't automatically believe everything we read on the Internet and Social Media, but IF , if what Courtney Tillia says is True, then I think it Strongly Hints at the reality of Sexual Pleasure existing in Heaven and the New Earth ! It is always an Honor and Privilege to Blog about Sex for Christians in Heaven and the New Earth !! Many other articles about Courtney Tillia can be found online
reddit.com has a thread on August 7, 2019 headlined "Why I believe there'll be sex in Heaven" r/Christianity by octaviosiepi who says "When God created Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden there's no real indication that they were not created with their sexual organs or that they were added after the fall. More important God commands them to be fruitful and multiply BEFORE the fall, meaning that sex is part of human nature before we were sinful and it was planned by God that it should be so.
This means that after the resurrection in body and spirit when we will be free from sin and one with God there's no reason to think that sex and procreation shouldn't exist just like God intended it to happen before the fall.
Yes, I know that Jesus says that in Heaven there will be no marriage and we will be like the angels and this is interpreted by many as meaning there will be no sex since there's no mention of angels having sex and because sex is only allowed in marriage. But given what I explained before there's no reason to believe that sex existing in Heaven contradicts what Jesus said. First of all Jesus doesn't say we will be angels since clearly the resurrection will be in human form, he's just using an analogy meaning that we will be pure and free from sin just like the angels in Heaven. And also being no marriage in Heaven doesn't contradict the existance of sex in Heaven because marriage is only necessary because of our fallen nature. Once we are purified and free from sin our only marriage will be with God, meaning that whatever God intended us to do will not be sinful since we will be pure and only able to act in God's love. This means that humans having sex and multiplying just like God intended in the Garden of Eden will not be sinful and marriage will not be needed since our marriage will be with God and therefore not sinful anymore."
dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com has an article headlined "No Arnold, Heaven Isn’t a ‘Fantasy.’ It’s Real." by Zachary Mettler June 8, 2023 , this is a good article in reply to recent comments by actor, politician and retired professional bodybuilder Arnold Schwarzenegger . Arnold Schwarzenegger is a great actor who did a decent job as former Governor of California, but this article refutes the comments by Mr. Schwarzenegger. Heaven is indeed Real, Heaven and the Coming New Earth are Both Real !
I purchased the 1998 book "Is There Sex in Heaven? And Other Hard Questions for the Man Upstairs" by Lee Eric Smith with foreword by Reverend Dr. Mary Tumpkin , the book is from a Christian Biblical Perspective and has 175 Questions people might ask , yet no answers, Just Questions Some noteworthy Questions in the book are #8 "Was anything important left out of the Bible? If so, would it matter?" #16 "How do we know we're not a science project in God's backyard?" #23 "Is tithing God's method of collecting income tax?" #39 "Is there sex in Heaven?" #43 "On Judgment Day, will sinners be allowed to have attorneys to speak on their behalf?" #47 "Why would God make sex so much fun if he didn't mean for us to do it?" #101 "Don't parts of the Bible seem a lot like soap operas?" #117 "Why does living a perfect life (as Jesus did) have to exclude sex?" #133 "Has God's stance on sex changed since condoms, spermicides and other safe-sex measures were invented" #136 "Was Jesus sexually active in his 20s?" #139 "What would media coverage of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ be like,?" #149 "What will we do for fun when we get to Heaven?" I know my belief about Christians enjoying Sex & Lovemaking in Heaven and the New Earth is controversial and is a tiny minority view among Mainstream Christians, but as I stated on the Tom Gruber blog istheresexinheaven.blogspot . The Biblical and other Arguments for Sex existing in Heaven and the New Earth are far superior to the weak false traditional view , the hideous lie of "No Sex in Heaven" Like I stated before, I do Not believe Heaven and the New Earth will be a giant orgy However, I do believe Sex & Lovemaking will exist in Heaven and the New Earth, just like it does now. Heaven and the New Earth will be about many things, just as this current Earthly Life is about Many Things, see my comments on the Tom Gruber blog I'm just an Average Evangelical Protestant Christian, Not a Scholar, or expert I've read the entire Bible when I was 17-18, and many books, websites about the Bible, so I have some Bible Knowledge
reddit.com on January 2, 2024 has a thread r/OpenChristian by Previous_Ad_6598 the thread is titled "Will there be sex in heaven" Some people typed in Support of Christians enjoying Sex in Heaven Strongdar typed "Sex isn't inherently bad, so I don't see why there wouldn't/couldn't be sex in heaven.
We do have a few references in the Bible to our future bodies, most of which do still sound physical, although different. The one argument against the future existence of sex would be the verse that says there will be no male or female (and also no Jew/Greek), but I think it's a mistake to take that too literally. If you get rid of all such "divisions," you basically obliterate our individuality, and I don't think we're all just going to be heavenly clones with identical bodies and no personalities. I understand that verse to be saying that "divisions" like male/female or race will still exist but they won't cause the strife they do now." imhere2lurklol typed
"If you want it to be there, probably. We’re said to want for nothing and that there will be many mansions, so I’m assuming Heaven/New Earth is fairly custom to each person who arrives. Sex isn’t this huge immoral, evil thing that can only be possibly tolerated by God within the confines of marriage that more traditional people would have you believe. The Bible talks about it a lot less than you’d think. Now yeah, when you start stepping into lust territory, that’s when it becomes a problem. But like, excess of anything is bad. We’ll apparently feast in Heaven but it won’t be gluttony, probably since no one will be deprived. I imagine since everything will be perfected, we’ll have sex in Heaven too, but it’ll be fixed to where it won’t be used for malicious or extremely selfish reasons, spread any sort of disease, be forced upon someone, and you’ll not forget that any parties involved are unique people/not just for sex"
randompearljamfan typed
"I know this is way too big a can of worms for something that really doesn't matter, but yall know the Bible doesn't teach an afterlife in heaven, right? According to the Bible, creation will be renewed, people will live in new Jerusalem on the new Earth. Corruptible bodies traded for incorruptible bodies, not transparent spirits floating around. Heaven is the realm of God and angels, not the place of the afterlife. The whole idea is getting back to a perfect world before it was corrupted by sin and death." Actually randompearljam is incorrect in stating "Heaven is the realm of God and angels, not the place of the afterlife" The Bible speaks of the Current Intermediate Heaven that Christians go to Immediately when they pass away and then there is the New Heaven and New Earth
catholicstand.com has an article headlined "Will There Be Sex In Heaven?" By Guy McClung on 12 January AD 2024 More and More Christians are wondering if there will be Sex & Lovemaking in Heaven, Sex After Death I say , Most Likely
On January 25, 2024 rgj.com has an article headlined "Will there be sex in heaven? | Faith Forum" by Rajan Zed This article is Mostly about Sexual Relations & Lovemaking in Heaven from a Christian Biblical Perspective but various Non-Christian Religions are discussed in this article I don't agree with everything this article says, but it's still interesting
christianitytoday.com has a good article headlined "Our Gender on Earth as In Heaven" by FELLIPE DO VALE on MARCH 18, 2024 As we can all see from my comments on this blog and my many comments on the Tom Gruber blog istheresexinheaven.blogspot.com My Christian Beliefs about Sex & Lovemaking in Heaven and the New Earth have good Biblical support, I don't just take my beliefs about Sex & Lovemaking in Heaven and the New Earth out of thin air I'm just an Average Evangelical Protestant Christian, I have some Bible Knowledge and Knowledge, understanding of Basic Christian Theology & Doctrine , I'm not a scholar But I'm definitely Not a "Crank" or "Crackpot" either
ReplyDeleteOn page 86 of the book "Under the Bed of Heaven" which is part of Chapter 4 "New Visions For Sex in Heaven" on page 86 it says "Sex in Heaven: The Possibilities" and it mentions Protestant Theologian David Jensen, author of the book "God, Desire, and a Theology of Human Sexuality" It says on page 86 "Jensen does not preclude the possibility of sex, gender, and intimate relationships(or something like these) manifesting between heavenly resurrected bodies. His reasons for holding this position are many. First, and with respect to scripture, Jensen notes that while Christ makes the claim that marriage will not endure in heaven(at all, or as it has existed on earth), Jesus does not outright deny the possibility of sex in heaven. The assertion that the end of marriage entails the end of sex is an assumption of the interpreter. For many Christians that assertion might be made because they stand (knowingly or not) on the shoulders of Augustine and his views on sex, and not necessarily on the basis of what the biblical texts themselves suggest. Second, Jensen acknowledges that sexuality and eroticism have been drawn upon by Christians to describe eternal union with God- and thus eroticism in heaven is not wholly contrary to Christian faith. For example, the Book of Revelation describes the relationship of Christ and the redeemed as a marriage consummated in heaven. What is more, other theologians have interpreted the Sexual escapades in the Song of Solomon (from the Hebrew Bible) to be spiritual metaphors for union with God. Furthermore, Christian mystics have also drawn upon eroticism to describe the God-human relationship. Jensen quotes the medieval mystic Mechthild of Magdeburg, which bears repeating here: " and is given on page 87 Plus on page 105 of this same Chapter Patricia Beattie Jung is mentioned and it says "But if resurrected human beings are able to have sex, what kind will it be ? Jung says "Whether all this means people will engage in coitus, fellatio, cunnilingus, genital rubbing, or the like, I care not to speculate" What is more important to Jung is that any vision of eschatological sex should be about the quality and character of the intimacy we share with others. She writes "our experience of erotic desires- which might well include but not be exhausted by sexual desires - are and might well be even more transformed by God's grace. God desires that we be increasingly inclined toward intimacy and drawn into one another's arms in ways that are genuinely humanizing." Chapter 5 of this book is titled "Sexual Metaphors for the Eschatological Life" and on the bottom of page 117 it says "Sexual Metaphors For Heaven"
The full title of the book is
Delete"Under the Bed of Heaven:
Christian Eschatology and Sexual Ethics"
By
Richard W. McCarty , Published in 2021
Again the Tom Gruber blog about
ReplyDeleteSex & Lovemaking in Heaven can be found here
http://istheresexinheaven.blogspot.com/?m=0
I gave many comments and Arguments in
Support of Sex in Heaven
Another book by
ReplyDeleteTom Gruber published in 2016 is titled
"Christopian Sex: A Treatise on Reclaiming Paradise via Christian Sexual Ethics" 620 pages print , the amazon.com description for this book says
"This new ground-breaking book by Tom Gruber grapples with the really tough ethical questions regarding sex, such as: What’s right? What’s wrong? And why? Most importantly, what’s idyllic?
But isn’t this Sexual Ethics 101? Doesn’t everybody already know what the Bible teaches about sex? Doesn’t everybody already know that sex belongs exclusively within marriage between one husband and one wife? Doesn’t everybody already know that fornication is the Biblical equivalent of premarital sex? Doesn’t everybody already know that adultery is the Biblical equivalent of extramarital sex? Doesn’t everybody already know that lust is the Biblical equivalent of thinking about either adultery or fornication?
If you believe any of these things, though author Tom Gruber respectfully disagrees, he can relate. He used to feel the exact same way. But then, after a series of cataclysmic events, he was forced to question everything he believed about sex. After 25 long years of investigative research, he came to some radically different conclusions.
Oh, he still believes the Bible is the reliable Word of God. He still believes fornication is wrong, he still believes adultery is wrong, and he still believes lust is wrong. But he has also come to conclude that adultery is NOT synonymous with extramarital sex, fornication is NOT synonymous with premarital sex, and lust is NOT synonymous with thinking about adultery or fornication. Furthermore, he believes that many of the sexual restrictions God placed on mankind were as a result of The Fall. Here are a few key questions this book addresses:
•Since Jesus said love for God and love for neighbor are a summary of The Ten Commandments, if a sexual act is both loving and in the overall best interests of everyone concerned, how can it simultaneously be sinful?
•Jesus said, “Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her in his heart has committed adultery with her already.” But what does that mean?"
The amazon.com description of this
ReplyDeleteChristopian Sex book continues:
"What did Jesus mean by, “In the resurrection, they neither marry nor are given in marriage”?
•If the Bible only approves of monogamy, why were so many godly men in the Bible polygamous without a peep of Divine disapproval?
•Does the Bible condone homosexuality?
•What went wrong in the Garden of Eden?
•Did marriage come before or after The Fall?
•Is there sex in the afterlife?
Gruber grapples with these questions, and many more. He makes a compelling case for what he coins as “Christopian Sex,” a non-conventional lifestyle similar to polyamory. Polyamory means “many loves.” Of course, everyone agrees that Christians should have many loves. But to love more than one person romantically or sexually is somehow breaking all the rules.
Gruber defines Christopian Sex as “the practice, desire, or acceptance by Christian adults of simultaneously having more than one responsible intimate heterosexual relationship [usually including sexual intercourse, though not necessarily] with the knowledge and consent of every Christian adult involved.”
The key word here is “responsible.” Yes, Gruber believes there really is such a thing as “responsible non-monogamy.” He believes something cannot be responsible and sinful simultaneously. Put another way, he believes something cannot be irresponsible without being sinful. Bottom line, Gruber believes that God does not make up willy-nilly rules without having good reasons for those rules.
CHRISTOPIAN SEX: A Treatise on Reclaiming Paradise via Christian Sexual Ethics by Tom Gruber, though biblically sound, is very controversial. However, it is not controversial simply for the sake of being controversial. Gruber believes truth is important, controversial or not. He believes that marital monogamy and single celibacy are NOT all there is. In fact, he also believes neither are idyllic. Gruber calls believers everywhere to reclaim paradise via Christian Sexual Ethics and usher in CHRISTOPIA!" This book Christopian Sex also defends the belief of Sex & Lovemaking Existing in Heaven and the New Earth !!!
I just found another Biblical Christian YouTube video about the possibility of
ReplyDeleteSexual Relations & Lovemaking in Heaven
The Video is titled
"Will There Be Sex in Heaven" by
Credo House on
February 4, 2023 , this video has an Open Mind about Christians enjoying Sex in Heaven & The New Earth
Sadly many Christian Biblical YouTube videos about the Topic of Whether There Will be Sexual Intercourse in Heaven repeat the same old weak False arguments against Sex in Heaven .
Earlier today I found articles online about a Catholic School , Christian teacher named
ReplyDeleteCourtney Tillia , age 35
The New York Post
nypost.com has an article about her headlined
"I’m a proud Christian porn star — God put me on earth to enjoy sexual pleasure"
By Andrew Court
April 24, 2023 Andrew Court in this article said Courtney Tillia is a "sinful stunner" who made an "unholy confession" but that's just his opinion
2. torontosun.com has an article about this same Christian teacher headlined
"Christian teacher claims God 'told her' to become a porn star" by
Brad Hunter on
April 24, 2023
&
3. dailystar.co.uk has an article about her headlined
"Christian porn star quit teaching job for sex work as 'God told her to' " by
Kristy Card on
23, April 2023
Of course we Christians shouldn't automatically believe everything we read on the Internet and Social Media, but IF , if what Courtney Tillia says is True, then I think it Strongly Hints at the reality of Sexual Pleasure existing in Heaven and the New Earth ! It is always an Honor and Privilege to Blog about Sex for Christians in Heaven and the New Earth !!
Many other articles about Courtney Tillia can be found online
reddit.com has a thread on August 7, 2019 headlined
ReplyDelete"Why I believe there'll be sex in Heaven" r/Christianity
by
octaviosiepi who says
"When God created Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden there's no real indication that they were not created with their sexual organs or that they were added after the fall. More important God commands them to be fruitful and multiply BEFORE the fall, meaning that sex is part of human nature before we were sinful and it was planned by God that it should be so.
This means that after the resurrection in body and spirit when we will be free from sin and one with God there's no reason to think that sex and procreation shouldn't exist just like God intended it to happen before the fall.
Yes, I know that Jesus says that in Heaven there will be no marriage and we will be like the angels and this is interpreted by many as meaning there will be no sex since there's no mention of angels having sex and because sex is only allowed in marriage. But given what I explained before there's no reason to believe that sex existing in Heaven contradicts what Jesus said. First of all Jesus doesn't say we will be angels since clearly the resurrection will be in human form, he's just using an analogy meaning that we will be pure and free from sin just like the angels in Heaven. And also being no marriage in Heaven doesn't contradict the existance of sex in Heaven because marriage is only necessary because of our fallen nature. Once we are purified and free from sin our only marriage will be with God, meaning that whatever God intended us to do will not be sinful since we will be pure and only able to act in God's love. This means that humans having sex and multiplying just like God intended in the Garden of Eden will not be sinful and marriage will not be needed since our marriage will be with God and therefore not sinful anymore."
dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com has an article headlined
ReplyDelete"No Arnold, Heaven Isn’t a ‘Fantasy.’ It’s Real."
by Zachary Mettler June 8, 2023 , this is a good article in reply to recent comments by
actor, politician and retired professional bodybuilder Arnold Schwarzenegger .
Arnold Schwarzenegger is a great actor who did a decent job as former Governor of California, but this article refutes the comments by
Mr. Schwarzenegger. Heaven is indeed Real, Heaven and the Coming New Earth are Both Real !
I purchased the 1998 book
ReplyDelete"Is There Sex in Heaven? And Other Hard Questions for the Man Upstairs" by
Lee Eric Smith with foreword by
Reverend Dr. Mary Tumpkin , the book is from a Christian Biblical Perspective and has 175 Questions people might ask , yet no answers, Just Questions
Some noteworthy Questions in the book are
#8 "Was anything important left out of the Bible? If so, would it matter?"
#16 "How do we know we're not a science project in God's backyard?"
#23 "Is tithing God's method of collecting income tax?"
#39 "Is there sex in Heaven?"
#43 "On Judgment Day, will sinners be allowed to have attorneys to speak on their behalf?"
#47 "Why would God make sex so much fun if he didn't mean for us to do it?"
#101 "Don't parts of the Bible seem a lot like soap operas?"
#117 "Why does living a perfect life (as Jesus did) have to exclude sex?"
#133 "Has God's stance on sex changed since condoms, spermicides and other safe-sex measures were invented"
#136 "Was Jesus sexually active in his 20s?"
#139 "What would media coverage of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ be like,?"
#149 "What will we do for fun when we get to Heaven?"
I know my belief about Christians enjoying Sex & Lovemaking in Heaven and the New Earth is controversial and is
a tiny minority view among
Mainstream Christians, but as I stated on the Tom Gruber blog
istheresexinheaven.blogspot . The Biblical and other Arguments for Sex existing in Heaven and the New Earth are far superior to the weak false traditional view , the hideous lie of "No Sex in Heaven"
Like I stated before, I do Not
believe Heaven and the New Earth will be a giant orgy
However, I do believe
Sex & Lovemaking will exist in Heaven and the New Earth, just like it does now.
Heaven and the New Earth will be about many things, just as this current Earthly Life is about Many Things, see my comments on the Tom Gruber blog
I'm just an Average Evangelical Protestant Christian, Not a Scholar, or expert I've read the entire Bible when I was 17-18, and many books, websites about the Bible, so I have some Bible Knowledge
reddit.com on
ReplyDeleteJanuary 2, 2024 has a thread
r/OpenChristian by
Previous_Ad_6598 the thread is titled
"Will there be sex in heaven"
Some people typed in Support of Christians enjoying Sex in Heaven
Strongdar typed
"Sex isn't inherently bad, so I don't see why there wouldn't/couldn't be sex in heaven.
We do have a few references in the Bible to our future bodies, most of which do still sound physical, although different. The one argument against the future existence of sex would be the verse that says there will be no male or female (and also no Jew/Greek), but I think it's a mistake to take that too literally. If you get rid of all such "divisions," you basically obliterate our individuality, and I don't think we're all just going to be heavenly clones with identical bodies and no personalities. I understand that verse to be saying that "divisions" like male/female or race will still exist but they won't cause the strife they do now."
imhere2lurklol typed
"If you want it to be there, probably. We’re said to want for nothing and that there will be many mansions, so I’m assuming Heaven/New Earth is fairly custom to each person who arrives. Sex isn’t this huge immoral, evil thing that can only be possibly tolerated by God within the confines of marriage that more traditional people would have you believe. The Bible talks about it a lot less than you’d think. Now yeah, when you start stepping into lust territory, that’s when it becomes a problem. But like, excess of anything is bad. We’ll apparently feast in Heaven but it won’t be gluttony, probably since no one will be deprived. I imagine since everything will be perfected, we’ll have sex in Heaven too, but it’ll be fixed to where it won’t be used for malicious or extremely selfish reasons, spread any sort of disease, be forced upon someone, and you’ll not forget that any parties involved are unique people/not just for sex"
randompearljamfan typed
"I know this is way too big a can of worms for something that really doesn't matter, but yall know the Bible doesn't teach an afterlife in heaven, right? According to the Bible, creation will be renewed, people will live in new Jerusalem on the new Earth. Corruptible bodies traded for incorruptible bodies, not transparent spirits floating around. Heaven is the realm of God and angels, not the place of the afterlife. The whole idea is getting back to a perfect world before it was corrupted by sin and death."
Actually randompearljam is incorrect in stating
"Heaven is the realm of God and angels, not the place of the afterlife" The Bible speaks of the Current Intermediate Heaven that Christians go to Immediately when they pass away and then there is the New Heaven and New Earth
catholicstand.com has an article headlined
ReplyDelete"Will There Be Sex In Heaven?"
By Guy McClung on
12 January AD 2024 More and More Christians are wondering if there will be Sex & Lovemaking in Heaven, Sex After Death
I say , Most Likely
On January 25, 2024
ReplyDeletergj.com has an article headlined
"Will there be sex in heaven? | Faith Forum"
by
Rajan Zed This article is Mostly about
Sexual Relations & Lovemaking in Heaven from a
Christian Biblical Perspective but various
Non-Christian Religions are discussed in this article
I don't agree with everything this article says, but it's still interesting
christianitytoday.com
ReplyDeletehas a good article headlined
"Our Gender on Earth as In Heaven" by
FELLIPE DO VALE
on
MARCH 18, 2024 As we can all see from my comments on this blog and my many comments on the Tom Gruber blog istheresexinheaven.blogspot.com
My Christian Beliefs about
Sex & Lovemaking in Heaven and the New Earth have good Biblical support, I don't just take my beliefs about Sex & Lovemaking in Heaven and the New Earth out of thin air
I'm just an Average Evangelical Protestant Christian, I have some Bible Knowledge and Knowledge, understanding of Basic Christian Theology & Doctrine , I'm not a scholar
But I'm definitely Not a
"Crank" or "Crackpot" either